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~~~ Ahh, Atlantis !! ~~~

Many things come to mind when people think of Atlantis. Many people accept the story of the sunken city of Atlantis as fact. Many people consider it a ridiculous fairy tale. What is real? What really happened? Did anything happen?

Most people learn of Atlantis from a hand-me-down myth that is based on the facts. Plato wrote Critias and Timaeus sometime around 360BC, and these are the world's primary source of recorded information. It is ironic that so much faith can be built up over two old stories which are considered by some scholars to be pieces of fiction.

Some people do not believe in Atlantis because it is not mentioned in the 'holy bible'. Some people don't believe in the bible because it doesn't tell of Atlantis. So you might be surprised to learn the scriptures do indeed tell of an event which could very well be the death of Atlantis. Let's compare the scriptures with the writings of Plato. Wouldn't it be strange if they agreed?

One thing I do know, Plato's story of Atlantis is based on fact. It is a true story. There really was an island-continent civilization called: Atlantis. But please notice Plato's stories are actually about the civilization which existed in the Athens Greece area before Greece was founded. We know Greece was inhabited and founded about 800-700BC after the Bronze Age ended. So it is clear Plato is talking about the people who lived there some time prior to 800BC.

Plato's Timaeus For there was a time, Solon, before the great deluge of all, when the city which is now Athens

Obviously, the Flood of Noah is not the same flood which destroyed Atlantis, though many historians try to relate the two incidents. And Atlantis was not the Garden Of Eden. Noah's flood destroyed the whole surface of the earth, while the destruction of Atlantis only destroyed a part of the earth and left many civilizations living. Noah's flood changed everything. Egypt came into being after Noah's Flood, and this passage refers to "the great deluge of all" which occurred during the time of Egypt. Later we'll see where it is also called an "extraordinary inundation". It seems to refer to the flood which destroyed Atlantis, and later after that modern Athens was founded.

After Noah's Flood, the entire ocean was called the Atlantic Ocean. North and South America were not connected, but were many separate 'islands' in the Atlantic Ocean. There was no 'Pacific Ocean'. What we now call the Pacific, Arctic, Indian, and the Atlantic Oceans used to be considered all one ocean surrounding the main land mass of the planet (Asia, Europe, and Africa). If you went west from the Mediterranean Sea, you would be in the Atlantic Ocean, same as now. But back then, you would continue west past some big islands, and then sail through the main part of the Atlantic Ocean, and then you would be in China.

Isaiah 23:6 says: Cross over to Tarshish. Cross over what? The ocean! Jeremiah 25:22 says: All the kings of Tyre, all the kings of Sidon, and the kings of the coastlands that are across the ocean. Yes, mankind did indeed cross the oceans back in those days.

Plato's Timaeus for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles (Hercules). The island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbor, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent.
--Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire

Plato's Critias Atlantis, which, as I was saying, was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia, and when afterwards sunk by an earthquake,

What we call 'the continent of Atlantis' is certainly the same as the biggest of 'the isles' spoken of many times in scriptures. Plato referred to the main-land (Africa, Europe, Asia) as 'the continent' and as 'a boundless continent', and to Atlantis as an 'island'. It sounds like they sailed all the way around the earth, back then. The island of Atlantis was as large as "Libya and Asia combined", which is as big as the place we call South America today (Libya meant North Africa, and Asia meant what we call the Middle East today). The "other islands" have now become North America. The "sea which is within the Straits of Heracles" is what we now call the Mediterranean Sea.

Perhaps that soon after Noah's flood the earth was still unstable, and the crust relatively plastic, so it should be no surprise that a continent-sized island could move a thousand miles or so overnight, especially if there was another big comet impact to break up the crust. And that soon after Noah's Flood, it is reasonable to assume that it was possible for a civilization to live many years as a benevolent, loving society like Plato described.

Plato's Timaeus a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, ... This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean,

I have not specifically noticed anywhere in scripture where it talks about the war between Europe/Africa and Atlantis. But since the scriptures of those days were related to Yisrayah, that is not surprising. They would not care much about wars between distant, pagan nations.

The planet Earth was perhaps as populated as it is now, but their civilizations ended thousands of years ago. North America would have been much less populated, since it was farther north than it is today, and the climate was cooler during the ice age. At the time, what we now call North America was actually several large (and many small) islands [see Dec 2005 National Geographic page 74 for a map]. Nowadays it appears that the ice age glaciers reached much farther south in North America than elsewhere. That is due to the southerly movement of the continent at the end of the ice age. Which means that the ice age was not as cold and extensive as once thought. The northern islands would've been frozen towards the arctic, but people most likely lived on the southern edges of them.

In order to properly appreciate Atlantis, you have to know what it was. First of all, it was real. Most people think of it as a city to be excavated. Many people think of it as a large island, or a continent. Some people think of Australia as an island, because they can sail around it - but other people insist it is a continent. It's all in how you choose to define it.

Evidence for Atlantis was given when Noah's sons divided up the earth. Yaphet got the east and north third of the earth for his children, who are caucasian and oriental and speak the Indo-European languages. Shem got the part in the middle, and Ham got the southern third. The southern part seems to include two continents, especially after I added the parts in the [square brackets] to the quote below. There is Africa, then the Atlantic, then the sea of Ma'ak. Between those two seas there must be land, and that seems to be called: Gadir. It sounds like Yaphet apportioned the land to his sons from east to west. Tiras got the last portion, four great islands near Ham's territory, which are now called North America. His children were called: Tartessians. It sure sounds like South America is Atlantis, and the original inhabitants were children of Ham. Is it my imagination?

Jubilees 8:22 For Ham [Khem] came forth the second portion, beyond the Gihon towards the south to the right of the Garden. It extends towards the south [Egypt], it extends to all the mountains of fire [south Africa], it extends towards the west to the sea of 'Atel [Atlantic], it extends towards the west [across the sea and then across Atlantis] till it reaches the sea of Ma'uk [Pacific] (that into which everything which is not destroyed descends). 23 It goes forth towards the north to the limits of Gadir [Atlantis], and it goes forth [east] to the coast of the waters of the sea [Atlantic], to the waters of the great sea [Mediterranean], till it draws near to the river Gihon [between Africa and Yisrayah], and goes along the river Gihon till it reaches the right of the Garden of Eden. 24 This is the land which came forth for Ham as the portion which he was to occupy forever for himself and his sons to their generations forever. ... 9:13 For Tiras [son of Yaphet] there came forth the seventh portion [in the westernmost part of the north third of the earth], four great islands in the midst of the sea [now North America], which reach [around the portion of Shem] to the portion of Ham [South America].

Most historians dismiss the evidence that there might have been billions of people on the planet Earth thousands of years ago. That's when the Sphinx and the three big pyramids were built. There are also substantial ruins around the planet from back then. A decent search of the internet will reveal gobs of evidence of pre-Columbus and pre-Viking contact between Europe and the America's. The big pyramids in Egypt are proof enough that the previous civilizations were intelligent and highly advanced. With all the modern technology that exists today, we could not build a pyramid of that quality (which is why many people insist the knowledge/technology came from aliens in UFO's). That makes it unlikely they were built by slaves; it seems more likely they were built by a great number of intelligent religious people.

Anyone claiming that modern man is the epitomy of evolution still has to explain those big pyramids. When I was a kid they showed me pictures of slaves hauling the big rocks up there, but that was completely unrealistic. Even if they could move the rocks up there, how did they fit them together so precisely, and align them with the earth so precisely? My guess is that those rocks were poured into a mold made of copper and/or tin (ha ha, chew on THAT for a while!). And no, I don't for a moment buy into the aliens-from-another-planet explanation. Nor do I buy into the idea of giants building them. Probably the three big pyramids at Giza were power-generating systems which we now have no clue to understanding. At Dendera in Egypt is a hieroglyph of a large electric-light-bulb. Sure, some of the lesser, later pyramids were possibly tombs, or sacrificial sites, but that doesn't make sense for the 3 big ones. These three pyramids could have been batteries collecting electricity from lightning! They were supposed to have a huge gold (conducting) globe on the top, a-la Nikola Tesla. It seems Tesla figured out what they were for and how they worked, and modeled his Wardenclyffe Tower after them.

The scripture teaches that Egypt was a huge country in those days, much bigger than now, very fertile, green, and full of rivers. The land could've supported a large number of people. Then something drastic happened, and the knowledge of old was lost. Later pyramids were small and crude. It appears some sort of "extinction event" occurred. Scripture said Egypt would be punished and abandoned, then later it would return as a small nation, only a small area compared to what it was. And that's what it is today:

Genesis 13:10 And Lot lifted up his eyes, and beheld all the Plain of the Yordan, that it was well watered everywhere, before Yahwah destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, like the garden of Eden, like the land of Egypt

Ezekial 29:14 and I will bring back the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return into the land of Pathros, into the land of their birth. They shall be there a base kingdom. 15 It shall be the basest of the kingdoms, neither shall it any more lift itself up above the nations. I will diminish them, that they shall no more rule over the nations.

Some people naively think that after Noah's Flood Yahwah promised to never judge the world again. This is, of course, not true.

Genesis 8:21 Yahwah smelled the sweet savor and said in His heart: I will not again curse the ground anymore for man's sake, for that the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth. Neither will I again smite anymore everything living, as I have done.

Genesis 9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you. Never shall all flesh be cut off anymore by the waters of the flood; nor shall there anymore be a flood to destroy the earth. 9:15 and I will remember my covenant, which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh, and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

He promised that He would not destroy the whole world again by water. Parts of it, maybe, but not the whole world at once. And He will not destroy all living things again - until the last day of the current world, when He will judge the whole earth with fire (you DO know about the upcoming judgment by fire, don't you?).

But that certainly leaves room for other judgments. Of course there have been lots of regional judgments, like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, but I'm talking about something affecting the whole earth, one way or the other. After Noah's flood there seems to have been at least one large judgment upon the world. So it seems that there may have been many times in the history of the world where there was a large-scale judgment (destruction and death). These judgments manifest themselves to us as a normal physical process, such as a comet impact or a super-volcano.

I am talking about judgment days which affect the whole world, although not everyone dies. You might have a point in time when there are billions of people on the planet, then,, BANG!!, 40% or 95% of the world dies. The rest of the world would experience catastrophe, revert from whatever they called civilization, and go back to living in the rocks and caves - surviving any way they could. There could have been several caveman stages followed by recovery, followed by again filling the world with corruption, followed by another judgment, followed by yet another caveman stage, over and over.

Plato's Timaeus The Egyptian said: a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals. At such times those who live upon the mountains and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than those who dwell by rivers or on the seashore. And from this calamity the Nile, who is our never-failing savior, delivers and preserves us.
When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, the survivors in your country are herdsmen and shepherds who dwell on the mountains, but those who, like you, live in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea. Whereas in this land, neither then nor at any other time, does the water come down from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from below; for which reason the traditions preserved here are the most ancient.
The fact is, that wherever the extremity of winter frost or of summer does not prevent, mankind exists, sometimes in greater, sometimes in lesser numbers.

Ezekial 26:19 For this says the Heavenly Father Yahwah: I shall make you a desolate city, like the cities that are not inhabited. I shall bring up the deep upon you, and the great waters shall cover you.

Conflagration means large-scale burning by fire. Amos predicted conflagration, I'll get to that shortly. Notice how the deluge (flood) usually comes up from below, not from above. This means the ocean actually rises up and washes over the continent. The prophet Ezekial agrees that Yahwah sometimes brings the ocean onto the land. The Egyptian was saying that sometimes the number of men on the earth is reduced by the gods, and then they build back up, and then they are reduced again. This was a matter of recorded history - humanity populates the earth, and then BANG!, judgment time, and relatively few people survive. This has happened many times if Plato's story is correct, some more serious than others. Yahwah promised Noah He will never again kill every inhabitant of the earth by flood - but it sure sounds like sometimes He kills a lot of them at a time.

Also the Prayer of Manasseh and Book of Yahb (Job) and so forth through the Old Testament all keep stating that Yahwah told the oceans where to stay. This probably seems quaint to modern humans, who think gravity keeps the oceans where they are, and they cannot go anywhere else. But it was a serious thing to the ancients. Why? Because they were experienced with the fact that the oceans can and do leave their basins and wash over continents. Such an event causes severe damage and loss of life. For who can survive when the ocean washes over your home? You think that little tsunami in Japan in 2011 was devastating? Or the one in 2004 in Indonesia? Just wait until you see a 3000-foot-high wave wash completely over a continent! That's when you will understand.

Yahb 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it broke forth, as if it had issued out of the womb; [the sea flooded the land].

Amos 5:8 and 9:6 who calls for the waters of the sea, and pours them out upon the face of the earth

Once upon a time the Egyptians were able to build huge pyramids with amazing precision. Then they lost the capacity and knowledge. Obviously, some catastrophe happened. Later pharoah's tried building pyramids, but they were small and lousy in comparison. Even today, with modern construction and tools and knowledge, we can not build a pyramid as well as the Egyptians once did. A tremendous amount of knowledge was lost in that catastrophe - maybe that was in the days of Amos? Is that also when Atlantis died? The whole earth was shaken mightily. The Egyptians, far around the earth, recorded powerful earthquakes for an entire day and night as Atlantis 'sank into the ocean'.

Comets were often drawn as swords, and have the reputation as being the way Yahwah executes judgments on the world. They even look like swords. That "myth" has to have a basis in reality. Scripture repeats: 'I will call for a sword upon the inhabitants of the earth'.

Does the scripture describe a major judgment since Noah's time? Yes!!! Here it is:

The Prophet Amos Chapter 1:1 The words of Amos, who was among the herdsmen of Tekoa, which he saw concerning Yisrayah [Israel] in the days of Uzziyah king of Yahudah, and in the days of Yeroboam the son of Yoash king of Yisrayah, two years before the earthquake.
2 He said: Yahwah will roar from Zion, and utter His voice from Yerusalem. The pastures of the shepherds shall mourn, and the top of Carmel shall wither.
1:4 but I will send a fire
1:7 but I will send a fire
1:10 but I will send a fire
1:12 but I will send a fire
1:14 But I will kindle a fire ... with a tempest in the day of the hurricane
Chapter 2:2 but I will send a fire
2:5 but I will send a fire
Chapter 4:7 Surely the Heavenly Father Yahwah will do nothing, except He reveal His secret to His servants the prophets.
4:12 Therefore thus I will do to you, O Yisrayah. Because I will do this to you, prepare to meet your Maker, O Yisrayah.
4:13 Lo, He that forms the mountains, creates the wind, declares to man what is his thought, makes the morning darkness, and treads upon the high places of the Earth - Yahwah, the Father of hosts, is His Name.
Chapter 5:3 For thus says the Heavenly Father Yahwah: The city that went forth a thousand shall have a hundred left, and that which went forth a hundred shall have ten left,
5:6 Seek Yahwah, and you shall live, unless He break out like fire
5:8 [He] makes the day dark with night. Who calls for the waters of the sea, and pours them out upon the face of the earth? Yahwah is His Name.
5:9 Who brings sudden destruction upon the strong, so that destruction comes upon the fortress.
5:17 And in all vineyards shall be wailing; for I will pass through the midst of you, says Yahwah.
5:18 Woe unto you who desire the day of Yahwah! Why would you have the day of Yahwah? It is darkness, and not light.
5:20 Shall not the day of Yahwah be darkness, and not light? Even very dark, and no brightness in it?
Chapter 7:9 The high places of Isaac shall be desolate and the sacred places of Yisrayah shall be laid waste. I will rise with the sword [a comet]
Chapter 8:3 The songs of the temple shall be wailings in that day: says the Heavenly Father Yahwah. The dead bodies shall be many, in every place they will cast them forth with silence.
8:8 Shall not the land tremble for this, and everyone mourn who dwells therein? Yea, it [the land] shall rise up wholly like the River, it shall be troubled and sink again, like the River of Egypt.
8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, says the Heavenly Father Yahwah, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day.
Chapter 9:1 I saw Yahwah standing beside the altar. He said: Smite the capitals, that the thresholds may shake. Break them in pieces on the head of all of them. I will kill the last of them with the sword [comet]. There shall not one of them flee away, and there shall not one of them escape.
9:4 Though they go into captivity before their enemies, there I will command the sword, and it will kill them. I will set my eyes upon them for evil, and not for good.
9:5 For the Heavenly Father, Yahwah of hosts, is He who touches the land and it melts, and all that dwell there will mourn. It shall rise up wholly like the River, and shall sink again, like the River of Egypt [extreme earthquake]
9:6 It is He who builds His chambers in the heavens, and has founded His vault upon the earth. He who calls for the waters of the sea, and pours them out upon the face of the earth. Yahwah is His Name.
9:8 Behold! The eyes of the Heavenly Father Yahwah are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth, except that I will not utterly destroy the house of Yaacob: says Yahwah.

Amos was obviously not predicting about the last days, when the Messiyah comes to rule and teach us about Yahwah. He made his predictions two years before "the earthquake in the days of Uzziyah king of Yahudah". He predicted conflagration (fire) and shaking, which is exactly what would happen if a big comet hit the other side of the earth from Yisrayah, perhaps over by Atlantis somewhere. Amos said the land will rise and sink - perhaps huge shock waves were moving around the planet.

He said the sun would go down at noon on a clear day (in Jerusalem) 5:8, 5:18, 5:20, and 8:9. One might look at the laws of inertia and the physics of the earth, and wonder what change could cause the sun to go down at noon. Perhaps there was a comet crash which cracked up the crust of the earth. Big shock waves would be traveling around the planet. The land would rise and fall perhaps hundreds of feet at a time. The planet would be out-of-balance by the addition of the mass of the comet and the momentum of the comet. I can easily imagine that the crust, which just floats around on top of the liquid ball of molten rock under it, moved to a new position in order to balance the planet's spin again.

The shock waves moving around the planet from the impact of a large comet could be on the order of hundreds of feet high, perhaps even thousands. The earth is 8000 miles in diameter, and the crust is around 25 miles thick. The crust is very thin compared to the rest of the planet. Below the crust the rock is semi-molten, and completely molten below that (when the semi-molten stuff comes to the surface through some small crack we call it lava). The crust would crack into a bunch of pieces from a major impact. Then the pieces would move around in order to dynamically re-balance the planet. The core of the planet can barely change its orbit, tilt, or spin rate because it has too much inertia. Imagine what it would feel like if the continent you live on suddenly decided to run over to the other side of the earth, and rotate along the way? The sun would go down at noon! What used to be East from your house today might be West tomorrow.

And you might know by now that the Egyptian pyramids and other ancient structures were very carefuly and accurately aligned to true north. The great pyramids are still very close, only off by around a twentieth of a degree, if they are at the angle they started at. But they are probably not even at the same latitude they started at. Due to water clocks and recorded ancient day lengths we know places like Baalbek, Babylon, Egypt, and China are no longer at the same latitude of the earth as when they were built.

Now notice that most of the most ancient structures in the America's are offset from true north by eight or fourteen degrees. Modern archeologists cannot accept the idea of rapid plate tectonics, so they have to say these were built with an offset on purpose. But it could just as well be that they were all made true to north, and then the continent rotated, probably even changed from the northern to southern hemisphere. It appears as if the older structures are about fourteen degrees off, and the later ones are about eight degrees off - perhaps indicating a two-stage movement of the continent? After each catastrophe the survivors are forced to abandon the old town because it does not point north anymore.

In Xian China is a pyramid village aligned close to north, while twenty miles away is another pyramid village aligned twenty-two degrees off of north. Did the continent rotate twenty-two degrees, and force its occupants to make a new village? Maybe it is only an accident the great pyramids appear to be so well-aligned? It is the sides of the Egyptian pyramids which point north, but when they were built maybe it was the corners of the buildings which pointed north, south, east, and west. There are other ancient buildings such as the Temple of Eleusis which got destroyed in a calamity and then rebuilt at a different angle.

Immanuel Velikovsky showed evidence the sunrise sometimes occurs in the east, then after some great calamity would rise in the west. Eventually another calamity would restore sunrise to the eastern sky again. This is a sign the crust of the Earth has moved considerably. Egypt was in the northern hemisphere, then in the southern hemisphere, etc.

Did you wonder why there was once a frigid ice age, but now the climate is warmer? Maybe the sun has varied, but more likely, Earth used to be farther from the sun in a different orbit. Velikovsky said Earth interacted with Venus and then Mars over the years. Not actual collisions, but they were close enough to change the orbital path of both planets involved. If he was correct, the Earth has most probably changed orbits a few times during recorded history, since the flood of Noah. Even scripture agrees:

Daniel 2:21 He changes the times and the seasons

2Ezra 3:18 There you bent the sky, shook the earth, moved the round world, made the depths shudder, and turned creation upside down [relative to the stars].
2Ezra 5:7 and the courses of the stars will be changed. [in the future]

The "turned creation upside down" most likely means the spot on the earth changed from the northern to the southern hemisphere. I think modern men start with one common problem: they think the Earth, Luna, and planets, are in the same place now they were in several thousands of years ago. If they would accept the idea of a dynamic solar system, they could see the changes recorded in human history.

Velikovsky thought Venus was ejected from Jupiter. Newer information debunked that claim, and so most experts dismissed the rest of his claims. That was unfortunate. I will say if Venus was indeed a comet, as he said, it was not ejected from Jupiter. It would have been discovered right next to Jupiter on our sky, appearing close to it, but in reality one was a lot farther away. In our sky Venus would be seen moving away from Jupiter. When I am driving in my car I can look through the windows of the car in front of me and see the car in front of that. From my line-of-sight perspective it looks like one car is inside the other. But we know right away that cannot be, one car has to be farther away. Then if one of the cars turns in any direction, I see them appearing to move apart.

Besides these things there are other signs that Earth has gone through close planetary-scale encounters. The rotational pole wanders around like a drunken man. This is called: precession. Also the magnetic poles used to wander around aimlessly. But now they have already begun a geomagnetic reversal. Several years ago the north magnetic pole stopped wandering and began heading south. The south magnetic pole is heading north. That whole 2012 Mayan thing has not gone away.

The bible records what is called Yahshua's (Joshua's) Long Day, where Yahwah caused the sun and moon to stay above the horizon for about twenty hours longer than normal (Joshua chapter 10, also Jashar 88:64). This event was preceded by a terrible meteorite storm which killed half of an army. At Cuzco, Peru, there is reportedly a tradition about a very long night when the sun did not arrive until it was twenty hours late, this was about 1400BC, which is the same time frame as Yahshua's conquest of Canaan. And it occurred at night, which would be correct since Yahshua's long day was in the mid-east. I have seen it claimed that the Egyptians, Chinese, and Mexicans also recorded a very long day in the time of Yahshua. These are clearly non-Hebrew references to what had to be a real, physical event.

It was hundreds of years after Yahshua's Long Day when Amos made his prediction that the sun will go down at noon. It seems obvious these two events each caused motion and rotation of continents relative to the molten core, and with it also a possible change in Earth's orbit. And right near the time of Amos, the Chinese reportedly changed their calendar from 360 days to 365 days. This was not because they suddenly learned to count, as the uniformitarians contend, but because the year actually did change from 360 to 365.25 days! And even after that, the Prophet Yeshayah recorded a relatively minor event, where the shadow of a large sundial (obelisk) moved backwards perhaps sixty inches (Isaiah 38:8).

Have you ever driven a car with a wheel out-of-balance? Most likely, the wheel was bouncing around and vibrating the car. There is a product sometimes found on semi-truck wheels which dynamically balances the wheel in real time. It consists of a bunch of spherical weights inside a circular tube mounted to the wheel, each weight being free to move around the circle. When the wheel is stopped, gravity moves the weights to the bottom of the tube. When the wheel is spinning, centrifugal force spreads the weights almost evenly around the circle to balance the wheel. If your tire picked up a rock or nail while you were riding down the highway, the weights would immediately move around to a new position in order to keep the wheel perfectly balanced. The continents of the earth do exactly the same thing.

That is what happened to Atlantis: the continent moved away from its position near Africa. Now we call it South America. At the same time, the smaller islands northwest of Atlantis which belonged to Tiras moved southwest and rose up. Now we call them North America. Also, there are some who notice that although the Egyptians built the pyramids to extreme precision, they are no longer aligned with the earth's motions relative to the stars. So they think maybe it is the precession of the poles which changed the orientation. So they look back in time and decide that 12,500 years ago the pyramids and the Sphinx were aligned with the stars. But what if the Earth changed its orbit? But what if the crust/continent moved? The continent could have rotated a bit overnight. It might have been far less (or more) than 12,500 years ago when the great pyramids were built.

Velikovsky said the Egyptian records indicate the sun used to rise in the east, then in the west after some calamity, then later another judgment and now it rises in the east again. Did you ever hear of Karnak, the temple of the Western-Rising Sun? The ceiling in the tomb of Senemut? The two diagrams on that ceiling show the view from the northern and then the southern hemispheres.

According to legend, the Atlanteans were able to predict the catastrophe, and had time to send wise men around the world - hoping a couple of them could survive to propagate civilization and knowledge. The most likely explanation is that they had knowledge of celestial mechanics, and had plotted the course of a new comet. The Atlanteans knew it would hit the earth, and they knew it would be severe. Remember, in Egypt, the destruction of Atlantis was a matter of recorded history. No doubt the people of the time sailed out to its old location, and when it wasn't there, they thought it sank into the ocean. They were familiar with this kind of event.

So at about the same time in history, we lost the advanced knowledge of the Atlanteans, and the advanced knowledge of the Egyptians. There is a good chance they were from the same event predicted by Amos.

There was an extinction event called the Pleistocene/Holocene extinction event. This is when most of the large mammals around North and South America and in Siberia died off, and the ice age ended. This event is generally dated to around 12,000+ years ago by geologists who have to support millions of years of evolution and the uniformitarian world-view. This is when Atlantis was supposed to have died according to Plato's '9000 years ago' if we assume they were solar years.

There was also an extinction event said to be about 3200 solar years ago, ~1200BC. In this event it has been shown that a comet caused a trail of destruction from North America to Yisrayah. Almost all of Europe and the Near East were incinerated. This event ended the "Bronze Age" of humanity, and left an "Ancient Dark Ages" in its wake. This is when Atlantis died and the Pleistocene ended.

Plato was describing a Bronze-Age type of technology, and Atlantis was supporting Solomon's bronze-age city and temple. Therefore the Egyptians were talking about Atlantis being ~9000 lunar years previously. A lunar year is not the same as a moonth (full moon to full moon) or a month. A lunar year is the amount of time the moon (Luna) takes to go around the sky relative to a reference star, currently about 27.3 days (sidereal month). So there are about 13.38 lunar years in a solar year, when you define it correctly. So 9000 lunar years is about 673 solar years. So 9000 lunar years before the supposed time of Plato was about 1040BC, supposedly the time of David and Solomon! And we can see Solomon built the temple onto some enormous stones, he had the technology, 1Kings 5:17-18. But the moon probably had a tighter and quicker orbit in those days, so a lunar year might have been only about 24 days, bringing us closer to the supposed time of Amos.

This is also when the Egyptians lost the ability to construct huge stone buildings like the great pyramids. Not only did Egypt lose its advanced technological knowledge, but so did everyone else. For example, there is a site called Baalbek in Lebanon. Over in Greece there are more sites which have enormous stone building-blocks which already existed when Greece was founded after 800BC.

The Book of Amos is generally dated to about 2800 years ago, only about 400 years before Plato. It describes the same kind of event as occurred at the collapse of the Bronze Age. Was this description written centuries after the event? Much of the New Testament was declared to have been written centuries after the event, but then later, new information has required them to re-date the writings to just after the event, no more than a couple decades. This proves that the dating of things which happened thousands of years ago is a very inexact procedure, and anything can be off by hundreds of years. Also, there are some unscrupulous people who try their best to discredit the bible accounts. They argue the bible along one timeline and the rest of the world along another timeline. That way they can say they don't match, and they think they have proven the bible is wrong. Amos claimed to have written this stuff before the event, and so he probably did, otherwise the people of the time would've known the truth and most likely would not have saved the material.

Most likely, these events are the same event, but they appear different because they are dated different. If Amos is a different event, then there were at least TWO major "judgments" since Noah's time.

But I doubt it. I think it was all one event, and it happened about 800BC or a little sooner. Immanuel Velikovsky said: "No 'Dark Age' of six centuries' duration intervened in Greece between the Mycenaean age and the Ionian age of the seventh century." He believed the Mycenaean's lasted till around the time of Amos, and that is when the supposedly ~1200BC disaster occurred. And he provided a lot of evidence to back up that idea. I will go even farther and suggest the so-called Cycladic, Minoan, and Mycenaean civilizations are really the outlying remainders of a master civilization which was destroyed with Atlantis. And Plato agreed.

Modern Archaeology notes the widespread devastation of cities and towns in Canaan about 1200BC. This is usually assumed to be because of the Yisrayahite entrance into the Promised Land, when they wiped out most of the local peoples and burned many of their towns. Indeed, this is often the main way that entrance is dated. But it could be that the Yisrayahites entered the Promised Land much sooner - and the devastation came in the time of Amos, as a result of Yahwah's judgment. After the judgment there were very few people left to clean up the mess, and it was a much bigger mess. The 1200BC mess was not limited to Canaan, it was spread across continents. I believe it actually occurred around 800BC.

Siberia and Alaska were inundated by a huge wave traveling from the Ocean and moving north over the land. This wave carried huge numbers of large mammals and trees from the south to the frozen north, where their remains were deposited and quickly frozen. Atlantis was killed by deluge, an even bigger wave since they were closer to the impact point. This wave must have washed all the way over the continent from west to east, as the continent was lower then. The Atlantean culture had constructed huge buildings out of enormous stones, and those 100-plus-ton stones were tossed around by the wave as the buildings were demolished. Although Atlantis appears to be a Bronze Age civilization, those stones have inscriptions of Pleistocene animals, so the death of Atlantis must also be the P/H extinction event, and serves to help date the P/H event. Farther away, Europe and west Asia were all burnt in a conflagration and became unihabited and uninhabitable. The continent of Atlantis moved perhaps 1000 miles farther away from Africa, and suffered a violent uplift. The Egyptians recorded earthquakes like never felt before, and "the greatest deluge of all" when the ocean rose up and flooded the continents. At least 90% of the people and animals from Atlantis, North America, and EurAsia died suddenly (many with their lunches still in their mouths).

The Bronze Age was fueled by over a half-billion pounds of copper mined in Michigan and Wisconsin thousands of years ago, and with tin mined in Atlantis. The Bronze Age was ended by this catastrophe because humans could no longer cross the ocean. The "Sea Peoples" invaded north Africa. The earliest of these various peoples were most likely people fleeing the invasion of the Atlanteans into Europe and Libya. The later waves of people were the remnants of the Europeans who survived the catastrophe, and now they needed land to support themselves on. So they went to Egypt, as people had been doing in droughts for many centuries. What they didn't know was that northern Africa was just in the process of drying out - all the lushness was turning into desert.

Not only does my speculation match with Plato, it also matches with verifiable scientific evidence. For example the book Opening the Ark of the Covenant [by Frank Joseph and Laura Beaudoin] describes a multi-disciplinary scientific symposium held in 1997, and the conclusion was that there was a major de-population of the earth's northern hemisphere by conflagration and flood in ~1260BC. They even concluded it was a global cataclysm caused by a comet! Before this time there were lots of people in Europe, known as: Mycenaeans. Yet Europe and the Near East were incinerated, in China the Shang Dynasty collapsed, African nations suffered great destruction, volcanos erupted from the Antilles to El Salvador, the art of writing was forgotten, stone- and metal-working stopped, and no new buildings were constructed. It was "a catastrophe which was one of the worst in world history", "the most frightful in the history of the world". Mind you, these were world-class scientists saying these things! And the more modern scientists agree with them.

I have also matched Plato with Amos in the bible, but Amos is generally considered to be from ~780BC, five hundred years later. So maybe I am wrong about him, but his description of the sun going down at noon, along with conflagration and shaking, does not match any other scientific or archaeological evidence or incident of which I am aware. So perhaps the date of Amos is really ~1200BC? I don't know of any event later than the ~1200BC event in which the sun could go down at noon, and in which the land was mostly de-populated by fire and flood, and maybe the date of that event is also off by hundreds of years. In the book "Ages In Chaos" Velikovsky thought the disaster occurred around 800BC, and that is when the Mycenaeans died off. So there would not have been a long Greek Dark Ages. I think he is correct.

Archaeology is like a puzzle. You have all these pieces and try to fit them into a timeline. One piece is dated at XXXXBC by an expert, prominent in his field. Then lots of other pieces are fitted alongside it. But what if that first piece is dated wrongly? It can be off by a thousand years, or more. For example, the Yisrayahite conquest of Canaan is often dated at about 1260BC because there are lots of sites in that area which were badly burned at what is called 1260BC. But then there are others who think Yahshua entered Canaan earlier, based on other evidences, perhaps 1500BC or even 2000BC, and the previously mentioned burned sites come from the later conquests as the Yisrayahites expanded their territory.

But there is a very important point overlooked here. It is not just a few sites in Canaan that were burned in about 1200BC. According to "Opening the Ark of the Covenant", ALL of the archaeology sites across North America, Europe, North Africa, and Asia were burned totally. Not "some" of the sites, but "entire continents". Indeed, most of the northern hemisphere of the earth was incinerated! So now we can realize perhaps the ~1200BC event had nothing to do with the Yisrayahite entry or conquest of Canaan. Now we can look to the scripture to see if any other event matches what is observed. And there IS such an event - Amos' Shaking!

Amos and Plato both described a planetary catastrophe, and those don't happen very often. The trick here is to realize that the writings of Amos were apparently saved by people who lived through a catastrophe. Even if it was a separate catastrophe from the death of Atlantis, it does show that the scriptures predict and record planetary catastrophes. And therefore we should believe that these things have happened in human history. If these are two separate events, it just goes to show that there were at least two major judgments since Noah's time (Plato said there were many judgments). The part of the bible which is attributed to ~1200 BC (Judges, Ehud, and Deborah) are quiet about any big judgments. So it is evident that some re-dating of some evidence is called for.

The island continent of Atlantis might have moved west a thousand miles or more overnight, away from Gibraltar (from the "known world"). At the same time, North America also moved southwest, but not as far because they were already farther away. As the islands moved, the forward edges would have piled up onto the sea-floor in front of them. The sea-floor subducted under the dry land. That would have raised the Rocky, Sierra Nevada, and the Andes Mountains to new heights, much higher than before. All three ranges are now considered to be very young, geologically. The big Andes Mountain volcanos would have erupted big time during the uplift, covering vast areas. Big tsunamis would've flooded coastlines around the earth, but probably not as badly in the Mediterranean Sea, as it is protected by the Pillars of Hercules (yet the Egyptian called it the "great deluge of all"). Atlantis was connected to Antarctica by an undersea ridge. After the island moved that ridge became curved and pushed up the Falkland Islands.

We can now look at the seafloor in what we now call the Atlantic Ocean and see the result of the spreading event that happened there. We can also see what happened to the underwater ridge that reached south from Atlantis to Antarctica. As it was bent around, the Falkland Islands and the mountains of Patagonia were raised. Much of the eastern part of the continent ended up at hundreds of feet lower elevation, sinking any coastal cities (which might be still there, if you want to go find them). The Andes Mtns were pushed up to great heights as the South America tectonic plate was pushed up and over the Nazca plate. The whole continent was tilted up in the west, and down in the east. The lush valley where the city of Atlantis used to be got itself shoved up into the sky. It is now over 12,000 feet elevation.

After the impact calamity, the ocean would've been covered in foam and pumice left over from the seafloor spreading event. It would be like the ocean was covered in floating mud which would take years to sink. That would make travel in the ocean nearly impossible. Yet a few hardy folks tried to make it out to Atlantis some time later, and discovered it missing. It is likely they did not go all the way out to the present location of Atlantis because ocean travel would've been dangerous and difficult. Probably they went out to its old location, and when it wasn't there, they figured it must have sunk below the ocean. They would not have expected it to move away to a new location, even today people don't expect that. If they could see the bottom of the ocean, as we can, they might have realized that Atlantis had moved farther away. Perhaps when the survivors realized ocean travel was hopeless and useless, they quit going out there. Then, for many generations, people thought they were locked onto the main-land. So eventually the mud sank, but they did not realize it. Maybe that's why the Egyptian told Solon that the ocean was currently impassible?

Plato's Timaeus But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune ... the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.

Plato's Critias Atlantis, which, as I was saying, was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia, and when afterwards sunk by an earthquake, became an impassable barrier of mud to voyagers sailing from here to any part of the ocean.

"Sunk by an earthquake" - is this the same "earthquake in the days of Uzziyah"? History does not record very many of these events, so they are probably the same event. I mentioned above that the original, single large continent was most likely broken up during Noah's flood, and perhaps broken up some more in Peleg's day. And now there is good reason to believe further spreading happened in the death of Atlantis. But the death of Atlantis occurred when there was many more people on the Earth than in Peleg's time. So it seems consistent to believe it happened later, perhaps in the time of Amos.

  Listen to these things which Amos predicted would come to pass:

  The sun will go down at noon
  The land will tremble
  The land will rise and fall
  The land will be troubled
  There will be a conflagration on the land
  The ocean would be poured onto the land
  Sudden destruction
  Shall not the day of Yahwah be darkness, and not light?

And please notice Amos 5:8 Seek HIM that makes the seven stars [Pleiades] and Orion, and turns the shadow of death into the morning [night into day], and makes the day dark with night [the sun went down at noon!]. He called for the waters of the sea, and poured them out upon the face of the earth [Amazing!]

Since the book of Amos was accepted as the word of Yahwah, it is obvious the people of his day believed what he predicted. That would only happen if events came to pass in such a dramatic way there remained zero doubt. And he made some rather astonishing, startling, and testable short-range predictions. Living through the event must have been outstanding! The earth must have been shaken violently! Shock waves traveled around the earth as lands rose and fell. Everything on the side of the earth where the comet came in would have been disintegrated or incinerated, and wildfires would be raging around the rest of the earth. The sky would be black with soot and dust and volcanic ash. It could be months or years before humans would see the sun again. Those who lived were most likely the ones who understood what was going to happen, and prepared for it by taking food and crawling into caves, and who were on the other side of the planet from the impact, and away from the enormous waves, and the fires, and had good luck -- or were protected by Yahwah.

And now back to Ancient Athens, the subject of Plato's books. Plato said that land and its people all sank into the earth and disappeared. I consider that a literal description. In Plato we find that land was once a large fertile plateau, then that plateau and the civilization on it disappeared into the ground, and now there is the Aegean Sea. How can that happen? Easy!

Plato's Critias excerpts: The land [where Greece now is] was the best in the world. And what part of it can be truly called a remnant of the land that then was? The earth has fallen away all round and sunk out of sight. The consequence is, that in comparison of what then was, there are remaining only the bones of the wasted body, as they may be called, as in the case of small islands, all the richer and softer parts of the soil having fallen away, and the mere skeleton of the land being left. But in the primitive state of the country, its mountains were high hills covered with soil, and the plains of Phelleus (as they are termed by us) were full of rich earth, and there was abundance of wood in the mountains. Of this last the traces still remain. Moreover, the land reaped the benefit of the annual rainfall, not as now losing the water which flows off the bare earth into the sea, but, having an abundant supply in all places, and receiving it into herself and treasuring it up in the close clay soil, it let off into the hollows the streams which it absorbed from the heights, providing everywhere abundant fountains and rivers, of which there may still be observed sacred memorials in places where fountains once existed. For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock; at the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation.

Imagine if a big asteroid hit exactly at the North Pole. Imagine also there are no oceans, only earth. We would see giant shock waves moving along the surface away from the impact point. These are the same as the ripples in a pond after a pebble is thrown in. The ripples spread out in a circle expanding away from the Pole. They gradually lose energy because of the friction in the ground causing an increase in entropy. Also they are spreading out and covering more ground. Anyone who is standing on the ground will feel an earthquake as the ripple passes under him. When the ripples have traveled 6000 miles they will be at the equator. All around the earth everyone at the equator would feel an identical earthquake at the same time. After this the ripples keep going, but now the earth is getting smaller so the ripples have to compress into a smaller area. As they move they lose energy, but the energy in any one spot is building up. When the ripples have traveled 11,500 miles they will be forming a small ring of circles approaching the South Pole. When the energy does get to the South Pole an interesting thing would happen. The waves of energy which form the ripples will all meet. When waves of energy meet they add the high points and subtract the low points. The ring will be a spot. At that spot the ground will first form a trough. There is always a trough before a wave. Maybe the ground will suddenly drop down 1000-2000 feet elevation. Then it will immediately fling itself back up. The high point of the entire ring will add itself up at the South Pole. This will cause the ground to heave itself up out of the hole and temporarily form a mountain. Perhaps the mountain will be 3000 feet high for just a moment. Perhaps 6000. Then that spot will once again form a hole in the ground as the wave moves past. That would happen several times consecutively as the ripples pass. The wave does not stop at the pole. The wave continues going where it was going. Now what we would see is a ring of ripples expanding outward from the South Pole. This ring of energy would travel around the earth many times.

Now I made that imagination to simplify the explanation. So now imagine if the giant comet crashed into the Ocean west of Atlantis. Among all the other devastating effects, such as a five-mile-high wave of water, we would see this ring of energy going around the surface of the planet. What if the point on the planet opposite the impact point was the ancient civilization of Mycenae? They would all die. The earth would open up under them. Before they could fall to the bottom of the pit that bottom would come rushing back up. Please notice in this image of the Greece area there is a large round damaged area about 300 miles in diameter.


On the following image I circled the whole damaged area with a red line. It approximates the current country of Greece and part of Turkey. Now imagine if the old shoreline was along the orange line. Imagine the area in the yellow line was the ancient lush green plateau the ancient master kingdom was on. Maybe it was 1000 to 2000 feet above sea level on average. The asteroid hit the opposite side of the earth, and the waves of earthquake energy came together here. This spot would have moved up and down quite violently. The land which was once a plateau was shook down into the Mediterranean Sea. It used to fill the yellow area, now it is slumped down and fills the red area. Looking at a map of the floor of the Mediterranean Sea one can quickly see this spot is different.

Notice in the Aegean Sea the land has stretch marks extending into the Sea of Marmara. What is now the island of Crete used to be in the yellow circle and formed the south edge of the giant plateau, now it has moved south. Notice the jumbled appearance of the underwater land between the yellow circle and the red circle, near Crete. Most of the shorelines in the Mediterranean are gradual. At the south edge of the red circle it is very steep, but in the Aegean Sea it is shallow. I believe this happened as the plateau collapsed into the previously deep water between the orange line and the bottom of the red circle. It used to be deep, but now that area is shallow and has islands, composed of the dirt which used to be the plateau. As the giant plateau collapsed into the sea it would have sent a large wave into Africa, the "extraordinary inundation". These things are in exact agreement with Plato's book quoted above. I read what he said, then I looked at the picture, and said: yes, it looks like what it should look like if Plato is literal.


While looking at the top image I thought I saw a bull's-eye pattern. It is mostly imaginary, just the desire of the mind to draw geometric shapes in the chaos. If you look at the green circles in the bottom image, then look at the top image, it seems easy to connect features into a pattern. If this is the remnant of the earthquake rings of energy then it can explain why the plateau fell to the south. The south part of the plateau was liquified and flowed to the center of energy, which is also downhill into the Mediterranean Sea. The north edge caved in behind the south half. Then the water flowed in and the Aegean Sea was made.

Most likely Immanuel Velikovsky is correct when saying the Mycenaean civilization lasted till the time of Amos. Amos's Shaking ended the Bronze Age. Before that time there was a large kingdom which vanished into what is now the Aegean Sea. Plato said they sank into the earth, leaving behind small islands. The Antikythera device is probably a relic of those days. The earthquake in the days of Uzziah was the end of Europe and Atlantis, both. It is also the P/H extinction boundary. Amos is normally dated at 780BC, and that seems to be close to correct. That is when Europe began to be re-populated. That is when Rome and Greece and Spain were founded and established. That is the end of the Ancient Dark Ages and the beginning of the Olympic Games.

This is obviously a mass extinction event. The sky is black, people live in caves. All the ships in the sea would have been destroyed by the waves, as well as all cities near the coasts. The ocean would have washed pretty far inland in a number of places, leaving seashells and dead fish in what are now deserts and mountain-tops. Apparently the islands of Tiras (north of Atlantis) were raised by the crash, and became North America. There could have been a large inland sea trapped temporarily, creating the Grand Canyon as it escaped. The equatorial ocean current can no longer pass between the islands. It used to cause the Mediterranean and Egyptian areas to be watered like a lush paradise. Yisrayah was a land flowing with milk and honey. But now the ocean currents are totally different, so those areas dried up. Genesis 13:10 shows that Egypt (north Africa) was a very green, well-watered country like the Garden of Eden, with many rivers besides the Nile. The Sphinx shows every indication of being eroded over many years by heavy rains. It was probably a lion, but the face eroded away, and later on a Pharoah had his own head carved out of the larger pre-existing head.

Genesis 13:10 And Lot lifted up his eyes, and beheld all the Plain of the Yordan, that it was well watered everywhere, before Yahwah destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, like the garden of Yahwah, like the land of Egypt,

The Book of Ezekiel 30:12 And I will make the rivers dry [of Egypt, land of many rivers], I will make the land desolate. I, Yahwah, spoke it.

The Book of Isaiah 37:25 and with the sole of my feet I will dry up all the rivers of Egypt.

It is typical after a sizable impact event that the atmosphere would be full of soot from all the fires. That part of the earth not blasted by the impact would be burned. And of course there would be a tremendous amount of dust in the air, and water vapor, such that even the sun might not be able to shine through it for a year. It could be months before you could tell the difference between night and day. You would not be able to grow food. You would be choking on very harsh air. Nearly all the plants on the earth would be dead, so little oxygen would be produced. Instead of being clear, the air would be black. The survivors would have a lot of trouble finding any food or water, groping around like blind men, and living in caves. This is the well-known result of a major impact event.

These conditions would cause severe problems for anyone still alive. Generations of people would be stuck in caves, suffering from extreme malnutrition and poisonous air and water. So they would not develop normally. When we find their bones we would expect to see deformities because of the hostile environment. Is this where and when the Neanderthal and so forth came from? We find their bones in caves, and they are not formed the same as modern man. Evolutionists gleefully say they are a distinct species, caveman, who evolved into us or alongside us.

Notice the continents of North and South America were not connected - they were a group of islands. That allowed warm equatorial water to pass through and influence the climate of Africa and Eurasia. After the earth was shaken the American continents became connected and large mountain ranges were lifted up. That blocked the old ocean and wind currents and altered the earth's weather patterns. While Libya, Babylon, Nineveh, and Egypt used to be wet, lush, and green, they then dried up. So while all the world was instantly punished, Babylon and Egypt were also slowly punished with lack of rain. It would have taken generations for all the water to drain out of the land, and leave the desert we see today. The calamity was undoubtedly another comet impact, as the Atlanteans could see it was coming. It penetrated the crust and cracked it open, allowing Atlantis to drift west-south-west perhaps a thousand miles and become South America.

As I described, the people on the main-land considered the sea to be the Atlantic Ocean. Plato distinctly says if you leave the Mediterranean Sea (he called it a harbor) and go past the Pillars of Hercules (Gibralter), you will come out to the Atlantic Ocean - and out there is the main island, which leads to other islands. The main island was Atlantis, the other islands are now uplifted and combined into North America. Atlantis became South America, and now has a connection with North America - they're not islands anymore. The city of Atlantis did not sink into the ocean - it was raised into the clouds! The plain where the city used to be was at a lower elevation, surrounded by mountains but with an easy connection to the ocean, so it was probably very similar to today's central valley of California. Most of the cities in California's central valley are below 500 feet elevation, and have easy access to the ocean, and the valley is surrounded by mountains all the way around. Atlantis used to have a wonderful supply of water from the mountains, but now it is too high of elevation.

Currently California's central valley has a large river draining it into the sea. Access is so easy that large, ocean-going ships can sail inland seventy-five miles to the SEAport in Stockton - which might remind you of the destroyed sea-port at Tiahuanaco (Tiwanaku), Bolivia. This city was supposedly built before the formation of Lake Titicaca, and is being called a SEAport, not a lake-shore city. In the vicinity of Tiahuanaco and Lake Titicaca there have been found ruins buried under six feet of sediment. The uniformitarian explanation is that this sediment washed down from the mountains over millenia. But it seems the mountains are not enough higher than the plain for this to be realistic. But if huge waves were washing over the continent, this could have happened in a day as mountains were quickly ground down (even while in the process of building up). If fact, we would expect that there are many, many more ruins in that area which are buried so deep we can't find them anymore. Those same waves would have been capable of moving large amounts of seafloor to the tops of mountains, depositing the seashells and marine life. Today Lake Titicaca is evaporating away because the mountains do not provide enough water to maintain it. So where did all of that water and salt come from in the first place? The ocean.

There are a lot of reasons to think South America was Atlantis. All around the continent we have found remnants of an ancient civilization. There are vast terraced areas in Amazonia which were cultivated for food for a huge population. There are old farms now located under the permanent snowline. The Ica Stones show interaction between humans and dinosaurs. And then there is Tiahuanaco and Lukurmata, the ruins of a very old civilization which had stone-working technology superior to ours. It had mastodon elephants, an extinct animal called toxodons, and other now-extinct Pleistocene animals. This is sometimes called the oldest city and culture in the world, and local legend says it was killed by earthquake and deluge. Indeed, the altiplano area sounds like the plain of Atlantis which Plato described, and on it there are found seashells and evidence of marine life - certainly the result of a continent-wide deluge.

If a large comet had hit the ocean west of Atlantis, then the continent Atlantis would've been hit by a wave a mile high, or perhaps even five miles high. No wonder we find seashells on the tops of mountains. In the desert in Chile there are the fossils of about 80 whales. These are all in one area 800 feet long. This suggests they all died together. Some say it happened during Noah's Flood, and maybe it did. But here is another possibility: a giant wave from a comet impact into the ocean washed a pod of whales ashore, buried them, and left them there. Also, there is a sunken city under Lake Titicaca, near Puerto Acosta. That indicates the now-ruined seaport city of Tiahuanaco was built before the formation of the lake. Apparently it was built at a low elevation, with access to the ocean to the west, and now it is at high elevation. The deluge would have filled in the plain with water as and before the land was risen to its current height. Since then the water would be slowly evaporating out and receeding. Indeed, at the south end of the plain there is a large salt flat.

The ruins in this area of the earth look like they were devastated by a knarly flood. They had huge buildings and so forth made out of 100+ ton stone blocks (yes, 200,000 pounds each), and then those blocks were picked up and flung about, thrown all around by the monster waves. Most of the ruins were buried under lots of gravel and rock. An enormous wave also washed northwards across North America and Siberia, carrying entire ecosystems along for the ride, including all the trees and animals (mastodons, toxodons, sabre-toothed cats, dinosaurs, etc). When the wave lost momentum it deposited all of its load in a jumble, like we still see them today.

While describing the main palace and the main city, Plato mentions that there "were growing all manner of trees of wonderful height and beauty, owing to the excellence of the soil" and "the docks were full of triremes and naval stores" and "the canal and the largest of the harbors were full of vessels and merchants coming from all parts".

While describing the valley around the city, he said "the whole country was said by him to be very lofty and precipitous on the side of the sea, but the country immediately about and surrounding the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea" and "the fairest of all plains and very fertile" and "straight canals ... let off into the ditch leading to the sea" and "twice in the year they gathered the fruits of the earth - in winter having the benefit of the rains of heaven, and in summer."

This does not necessarily mean that the valley floor was lofty, just that the mountains between the valley and the ocean were lofty. Those other quotes should be proof of that. You don't have excellent soil and tall trees at 12,000+ feet elevation. And you certainly don't get two growing seasons a year - you get one season, and you get winter snow. The valley was said to be very well populated, but most people would prefer living in the warmth of low elevation. And don't forget the ships. You had merchant ships coming from all around the earth, and you had naval warships. If Lake Titicaca had existed back then, accounting for the "sea", why would they need huge warships in the middle of their own country? Those trireme warships were ocean-going ships which they were using to fight against the peoples of the Mediterranean Sea area. For them to be docked at the palace shows that the "ditch leading to the sea" was an easy route. All these things put together show that the valley of the city of Atlantis was very similar to todays California's central valley, much of which is only a couple hundred feet above sea level. And also in California we find similar canal systems bringing water from the mountains to the cities and to irrigate one of the world's most important breadbaskets - with two crops a year.

Those ruins at Tiahuanaco, along with Baalbek, the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid, and many others around the earth, seem to be the remnants of a long-lost civilization which was very advanced. This old civilization had the ability to work with semi-truck-sized stones. The ruins of Teotihuacan in Mexico were apparently created to ward off a predicted end-of-the-age by earthquake, yet they were destroyed by fire and buried under dirt - so apparently the age of time ended anyways, perhaps by comet impact.

The oldest structures remaining in Greece are from the 8th century BC, the end of the "ancient dark ages". Rome and Spain and Greece were all re-populated beginning around 800BC or so. This indicates that everything before then was destroyed, like the Egyptian told Solon, except for the few places where some enormous monolithic works survive. The scriptures tell of ships coming from Tarshish to give King Solomon gold and so forth, so it seems natural that the deluge came after that. Like in the days of Amos?

This is recorded history!

The prophet Hosea was a contemporary of Amos and Yeshayah who made predictions regarding Yisrayah. He began prophesying in the days of Uzziyah, and apparently his book was a parallel of the prophesy of Amos. It is not exactly clear how much was written before the earthquake, and how much after. Most of the book centers on the time when he first started prophesying, and he promises a judgment. Then in the sixth chapter he is saying the judgment came to pass, then by the end of his book he is promising another judgment, just as Yeshayah was doing at the same time:

Hosea Chapter 1:1 The word of Yahwah that came unto Hosea the son of Beeri, in the days of Uzziyah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekyah, kings of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Yisrayah.
1:2 When Yahwah spoke at the first by Hosea, Yahwah said unto Hosea: Go, take to you a wife of whoredom and children of whoredom, for the land does commit great whoredom, departing from Yahwah.
1:3 So he went and took Gomer the daughter of Diblaim. She conceived, and bore him a son.
1:4 And Yahwah said to him: Call his name Jezreel, for yet a little while, and I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Yahu, and will cause the kingdom of the house of Yisrayah to cease.
1:5 And it shall come to pass at that day, that I will break the bow of Yisrayah in the valley of Jezreel.
1:6 And she conceived again, and bore a daughter. And Yahwah said to him: Call her name Lo-ruhamah, for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Yisrayah, that I should in any way pardon them.
Chapter 4:3 Therefore shall the land mourn, and everyone who dwells therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field and the birds of the heavens; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.
4:5 And you shall stumble in the day, and the prophet also shall stumble with you in the night; and I will destroy your mother.
4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you,
Chapter 5:9 Ephraim shall become a desolation in the day of rebuke: among the tribes of Yisrayah I have made known that which shall surely be.
10 I will pour out my wrath upon them like water.
5:14 For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Yahudah. I, even I, will tear and go away. I will carry off, and there shall be none to deliver.
5:15 I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly.
Chapter 6:1 Come, and let us return unto Yahwah; for He has torn, and He will heal us; He has smitten, and He will bind us up.
6:2 After two days will He revive us: on the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live before Him.
6:3 And let us know, let us follow on to know Yahwah. His going forth is sure as the morning. He will come unto us as the rain, as the latter rain that waters the earth.
6:5 Therefore I have hewed them by the prophets. I have killed them by the words of my mouth: and your judgments are as the light that goes forth.
7:10 yet they have not returned unto Yahwah their Father, nor sought Him, for all this.

The book of the Prophet Yeshayah (Isaiah) is very special, one of the most important books in the entire scripture. It is quoted in the first four books of the New Testament. Yeshayah also begins preaching in the days of Uzziyah, apparently just after "The Earthquake". He begins by saying the land is desolate and burned - the result of Yahwah's judgment. Barely anyone survived, and they were on the other side of the planet from the impact! He confirms Amos. Then he continues with - you've survived the catastrophe, here's how to proceed, and look towards the future.

The Book of YeshaYah 1:1 The vision of YeshaYah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Yahudah and Yerusalem, in the days of Uzziyah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekyah, kings of Yahudah.
1:7 Your country is desolate; your cities are burned with fire; your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as if overthrown by strangers.
1:8 And the daughter of Zion is left as a booth in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.
1:9 Except Yahwah of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
1:10 Hear the word of Yahwah,
1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before My eyes; cease to do evil;
1:17 learn to do well; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
1:18 Come now, and let us reason together: says Yahwah. Though your sins are as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
1:19 If you be willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land:
1:20 but if you refuse and rebel, you shall be devoured with the sword; for the mouth of Yahwah has spoken it.
5:25 Therefore is the anger of Yahwah kindled against His people, and He has stretched forth His hand against them, and has smitten them. The mountains [still] tremble, and their dead bodies are as refuse in the midst of the streets. For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

Verse 5:25 makes it clear that a judgment just happened, as "has smitten them" is past tense, and "their dead bodies are as refuse in the midst of the streets" is present tense. Verse 1:7 is also present tense, and also indicates that it was not men who did the damage: "as if overthrown by strangers" (also notice that entire mountains do not tremble from the wars of men).

He is already promising another sword/judgment if they do not obey. The second time the judgment was by the king of Babylon, when Yisrayah, Tyre, and Egypt were conquered. At this time Egypt was burned, so you might realize that the land had dried out significantly by then, and there had been a LOT of dead trees and vegetation which was primed for fire. There is good reason to believe that judgments have happened many times. Probably Noah's Flood was the only catastrophe in human history greater than Amos' Shaking.

It seems like all the ancient civilizations had 360 days in their year. This cannot be coincidence. It must be a fact that the year WAS 360 days. When it then changed to 365.25 days, different civilizations concocted different ways of adjusting their calendars. Such as adding five inter-calary days to the original 360. What could change the length of the year? The rotation of the earth on its axis could not have sped up that much because there is way too much inertia (mass times momentum). Currently the earth has an elliptical orbit, perhaps the average orbital distance moved slightly farther from the sun? Elliptical orbits are the result of impacts and interactions. Yahb (Job) 9:6 says YHWH shakes the earth out of its place. This probably means it is moved to a new orbit. Supposedly, the change in the length of the year happened about three thousand years ago, right near the time of Amos!

I believe the scriptures have to be taken literally. Otherwise they are not worth reading. One thing to realize is the difference in scripture between the 'earth', and the 'world'. They are simply NOT the same things. The 'earth' is the planet we live on, created by Yahwah. It includes the biosphere, Mother Nature. The 'world' is a thing made by humans. It is the religious, social, and political environment we created for ourselves, along with the pollution and changes we have made to the earth. The following verse shows there are two things, it is translated that way in many translations: Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, you are Yahwah.

The prophet Amos was not predicting an upheaval in worldly, human events. He was predicting a planetary catastrophe. If such a thing had not come to pass just as he said, then he would have been immediately forgotten as a fraud (Deuteronomy 18:21-22). We would never have any knowledge that he existed. I believe therefore, for one reason or another, the sun DID go rapidly down below the horizon at noon on a clear day, and everyone was witness. Something dramatic happened to alter the rotation and balance of the earth. Then fire descended on everyone, the sky turned black, and a horrific earthquake shook everything up.

When Yahwah says He will "brandish my sword", sometimes He is talking about the return of the Messiyah, with Yahushua Messiyah Himself being the sword (as in Revelation). Sometimes He puts His sword in the hand of a human who conquers a country (as in Ezekial 30:24-25 and Ezekial 32:10-11). Other times it seems as if He is talking about a comet which will smash into the planet. Here it is probably a comet, as he is not predicting about the last days.

This image tries to imagine what the earth used to look like. The white arrow points to the harbor which leads into the city of Atlantis. Currently there is a large basin in the area, which is where Lake Titicaca is (around there we find very ancient ruins of a civilization which was killed by deluge). The difference is that Lake Titicaca is at a much higher elevation now, 12,500 feet. Plato described the basin as at a low elevation, it was a well-watered bread-basket surrounded by mountains, but had easy access to the sea. When the ocean currents could get through the islands to the main-land, Egypt, Babylon, and the region were also well-watered and green. Compare this imaginary map to the current map below it:


Those who survive an impact are the ones who take food and water and hide in caves, and are very lucky. The comet coming in would heat up the earth's atmosphere to hundreds of degrees. The impact would create an earthquake felt by everyone - the entire earth would vibrate, ringing like a bell. There would also be a rain of melted rocks all around the earth (tektites, fire, and brimstone). The sound of the impact would be heard by everyone on the planet. There could have been winds of a few hundred miles an hour blasting the inhabitants of the earth with oven-hot air. Nearly everything flammable would be burned up (humans are flammable). The best defense would be underground, where the relative coolness of the earth would offer some protection from the inferno outside. And the scripture said that's where people would be hiding.

The Book of Psalms 11:6 He will rain snares upon the wicked. The portion of their cup will be fire, brimstone, and burning wind.

Soon after, the nations would've re-grouped and re-formed. People who survived would re-populate whatever buildings survived the catastrophe. The strongest of them would most likely raid and plunder their neighbors to survive. There would be little light from the sun for many months, and so it would've been very difficult to grow or find food and fresh water. Further scripture tells how the people who lived through the judgment died off, and the new generations turned bad. And so, a lifetime later, they were carried away into Babylon. Babylon was away from the sea and perhaps didn't suffer from the shaking and flooding as much as other countries. But it had lots of hungry people, so they took over Yerusalem, Tyre, Egypt, etc.

Plato's Critias For when there were any survivors, as I have already said, they were men who dwelt in the mountains ... and as they themselves and their children lacked for many generations the necessaries of life,

Plato's Timaeus There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes. The greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes.
but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals
When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water,
Whereas just when you and other nations are beginning to be provided with letters and the other requisites of civilized life, after the usual interval, the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education. And so you have to begin all over again like children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times,
you remember a single deluge only, but there were many previous ones
before the great deluge of all, [the destruction of Atlantis, not Noah's]

There were possibly a billion people on the Atlantean continent, and the vast majority would have died. Much of the life on earth would have died. This is possibly the event now called the Pleistocene-Holocene extinction event - the end of the ice age. That is when many large mammals died off, like the Mammoths and Sabretooth Tiger. In the Andes there are ancient carved stones which seem to depict a type of animal called a toxodon, which went extinct at the P-H event. They also show elephants, which Plato said existed in Atlantis. Something pretty dramatic happened during human history to change the earth and it's weather, and to extinguish a lot of the life on the planet.

Noawdays we look at antique maps of the earth and laugh at the lack of accuracy. But perhaps they WERE reasonably accurate? Yisrayah and Egypt must have travelled a fourth of the way around the planet in an hour or so, in order to satisfy the prediction that the sun would go down at noon (the earthquake in the days of Uzziyah). At some point during that day, the continent of Atlantis ended up farther away from the mainland (Europe/Africa) than it used to be, maybe a thousand miles. This event could easily have caused the flooding of the Black Sea, as well as the formation of the Persian Gulf, and many other geographical features. There is no doubt that the shapes of the continents would have changed. Mountains would have risen and fallen. Rivers would have found new courses. Maps would have had to be re-drawn.

Currently an ancient city in the Bay of Cambay, India, a town called Pavlopetri, Greece, and several other locations around the planet, are below sea level. This is explained by the uniformitarians as a very gradual rise in sea level over millenia, but now one can see that it might have happened in a day. As the continents rose and fell hundreds of feet (or more) at a time, there is a very good chance that the final location would be at a different elevation than it started. Currently we see fossils of seashells and other marine life on the tops of mountains. The evolutionist uniformitarians (such as Discovery Channel, Science Channel, etc) argue that the ONLY way this could happen is for the land to slowly rise up over millions or billions of years, so that what was an ancient seafloor is now a mountaintop. But now we see that it could have happened in a day.

Some have dated the Sphinx, the big pyramids, and other sites to 12,000 years ago based on their alignment with the sky and the earth's rotational poles. They use very slow changes in the earth's precession or tilt to calculate back in time until these objects are aligned with the sky or poles (whichever yields the answer they want). But now we see that these events could have occurred much more recently, based on the continent itself changing position with regard to the earth's core.

And there is a lot of corroborating evidence towards the existance of Atlantis. Like the old copper mines in Michigan and Wisconsin. There were the Islands of Tin, the Cassiterides, which have not been found. These mysterious islands were also called Islands of Metals. Tin and copper were needed in vast amounts for the Bronze Age, and it is a mystery to many about where it all came from. Spain and England did not produce nearly enough. Many ancient artifacts from the Old World have been recovered here in the USA, some much older than the Roman coins which have been found. Supposedly Tartessian and ancient Hebrew inscriptions have been found at Rhode Island, Arizona, and Brazil. There is much in common between ancient Hebrew and some Native American languages.

We know from Proclus' writings that someone went to Egypt and verified Solon's story, though there is debate as to whether it was Plato himself or Crantor. There were others who believed Atlantis was a fact, such as Crantor, Strabo, and Posidonius.

There was a well-known period of history known as the Bronze Age. Then between about 1200BC to 800BC the northern hemisphere was de-populated by incineration, when nine-tenths of the people died (agreeing with Amos 5:3 exactly). This lead to a near-total collapse of civilization known today as the Bronze-Age Collapse where advanced technology and knowledge was lost throughout the world. This lead into the Ancient Dark Ages, which might have lasted centuries. For example, knowledge of how to build those 3 huge pyramids in Egypt was lost. The later pyramids were small 'step' pyramids, and nowhere near as well made. It is obvious that the ancients had stone-working technology which was better than anything we have even today. There are many places in the world where giant monolithic stones were pre-existing from a lost civilization, and then built upon later by Romans, Greeks, etc, well after the ~1200BC calamity.

One of the things that was lost at the beginning of the Ancient Dark Ages was bronze itself, as afterwards the world turned to iron, which had always been available in the Middle-east. This could be explained if the copper and tin came from Atlantis and the northern islands, and then ocean travel became impossible. So they were forced to turn to less-desirable but locally available materials, namely the iron which rusts. And knowledge of old languages was lost.

Also, there are reports of ancient batteries being found in the Middle East. And supposedly the three big pyramids had gold globes on them, gold being an excellent conductor of electricity. At a temple in Dendera is a hieroglyph of what appears to be an electric light bulb. And supposedly there is zero soot from candles or any kind of flame lights inside the most ancient pyramids and other buildings. So maybe the pyramids were actually batteries storing the energy from lightning bolts?? There are many rumors that they were some sort of energy generation or energy capture devices, similar to Nikola Tesla and Wardenclyffe. That would've definitely been advanced technology at that time (~4000+ years ago). It also means they had glass, as it says in Job 28:17 "Gold and glass". It is now known glass was being made ages ago.

Atlanteans were said to be expert miners and metalurgists, and had large, ocean-going ships before anyone else. If they knew in advance the earth would be hit by a comet, as legend indicates, then they had advanced celestial mechanics, which requires advanced mathematical abilities. And they had telescopes, according to the Ica Stones of Peru, which also show a comet. Both the Sumerians and the Chaldeans reportedly were making glass lenses before the time of Atlantis. Also, the Olmecs of Central America had concave mirrors, from which one can make a Newtonian telescope. And that could explain how the Dogon Tribe of Africa knew a thousand years ago about Sirius B, Saturn's rings, the four moons of Jupiter, and that Luna is dry and dead. Apparently they also knew the earth rotates on an axis every day, and revolved in 365 days. In Zimbabwe is a mysterious elliptical stone building. They are near the Dogon tribe of Mali. The elliptical building is apparently the representation of the orbit of Sirius B around an internal pillar which would have been Sirius A.

Did you know that recently there were recorded many separate comet/asteroid impacts on Jupiter? One impact left a black scar in July 2009, which I saw in my telescope. Also there were two incidents in 2010. In one incident, there were two people who recorded a bright flash on video, one in the Phillipines and one in Australia, proving the impact was real, and not a flaw of some kind. Another one on Sept 10, 2012. Then on March 17, 2016 another impact was recorded on two separate video cameras. And you probably remember when Comet Shoemaker-Levy left the string of giant impact scars in 1994, I saw those in my telescope. On January 21, 2019 a meteor hit the Earth's moon during a total eclipse. Also, astronomers have recently discovered several small asteroids passing by Earth at much less than the distance to the moon! So impacts do happen in this day and age! In fact, one almost landed on your house. On November 8th 2011 an asteroid nearly hit the earth - this one was large enough to wipe out an entire city in a moment, turning it into a crater.

There is a theory by Charles Hapgood which even Albert Einstein approved, called: Crustal Displacement. This is where the crust of the earth 'as a whole' can move over the molten core underneath. He figured that this has happened many times in the past, as a result of the ice caps causing an un-balance in the spin of the earth. The crust moves around untill the planet is balanced again. He provides a lot of good evidence. Pretty interesting.

Note that my speculation has the crust broken up into pieces by a comet and the pieces moving around somewhat independently while the entire crust was moving around. I believe it IS possible for a continent to move 1000 miles in a day in order to re-balance the earth. If it truly did so, then it would be no problem for the west side of the continent to uplift two miles at the same time. It is nearly impossible to change the earth's rotational axis. It is almost certain that what has happened is that the continents slide around on the top of the ball of molten rock below. The mass of the crust is far less than the mass of the ball.

I believe in plate tectonics, I just think that sometimes the plates move very rapidly. The uniformitarian scientists believe they always move slow because they are moving slow right now. But these uniformitarian scientists can be way, way wrong in what they say. Then again, Amos predicted that the sun would go down at noon, and apparently that did happen because they saved his writings believing he was a prophet. The bible clearly says if someone's predictions do not come to pass, then he is a fraud and you should forget about him. So how can the sun go down at noon? High-speed plate tectonics!! The earth re-balances itself. The main part of the earth is molten, and carries a tremendous amount of inertia. There is no way for the entire earth to change its rotational axis or speed any significant amount, or flip upside-down or fall-over as some claim, but the thin crust on the outside can slide over the rest (which is plate tectonics...).

So what does scripture say regarding Yahwah's judgment days? We find it perfectly matches what I've been saying. When Yahwah comes to visit mountains fall down, and other ones rise up. It is high-speed plate tectonics.

Ezekial 38:19 Surely in that day there will be a great shaking in the land of Yisrayah, 20 so that the fishes of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men who are upon the face of the earth, will shake at my presence. The mountains will be thrown down, the steep places will fall, and every wall will fall to the ground.

Nahum 1:5 The mountains quake at Him, the hills melt, the earth is upheaved at His presence, yea, the world, and all who dwell there.

Psalm 46:1 Yahwah is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. 2 Therefore we will not fear, though the earth changes, and though the mountains are shaken into the heart of the seas, 3 though the waters thereof roar and are troubled, though the mountains tremble with the swelling thereof.

Job 9:5 He removes the mountains, and they do not know it when He overturns them in His anger. 6 He shakes the earth out of its place, and the pillars thereof tremble. 7 He commands the sun, it does not rise.

I like the world-wide catastrophe idea. It fits very well with Plato and Amos. I am merely accepting the conclusions of respected scientists who came to the conclusion in 1997 that a planetary calamity occurred ~1260BC which ended the Bronze Age and brought about 500 years of the Ancient Dark Ages, and then thinking that it matches Plato's story. I am not starting from Plato and then trying to make the world obey it. Plato does say the Mediterranean suffered terribly during the day and night. The earthquakes and floods reached all the way to Athens (which was also destroyed according to Plato), Yisrayah (which was destroyed according to Yeshayah), and Egypt (which lost the capacity to build pyramids). It should be obvious a great catastrophe occurred. The ~1200BC date seems consistent if the Egyptian was using 9000 lunar years, and with the description of Atlantis and Solomon's temple all being described as Bronze Age buildings, and because the Phoenicians-Atlanteans were bringing Solomon the metals.

Amos and Plato both described a planetary catastrophe, and those don't happen very often. The destruction of Atlantis was probably the Pleistocene-Holocene extinction event. Near Lake Titicaca there are ruins of a lost civilization, in which there are many depictions of now-extinct Pleistocene animals such as the mastodon and toxodon. And over there near Ica Peru were found thousands of stones depicting humans interacting with dinosaurs. Such as humans hunting dinosaurs, and dinosaurs hunting and eating humans.

Let's say that Atlantis used to be 600 miles from Africa. After the catastrophe it is now 1600 miles from Africa. So maybe the remaining humans went out 800 miles or so from Africa, and all they found was a shoal of mud. Plato said the mud was "at that spot" where Atlantis used to be. That mud would have been pumice and ash from the sea-floor spreading event, and volcanic eruptions as the continent of Atlantis moved over the Pacific/Nazca Plate and became South America. And it would be right where Atlantis used to be. We can therefore see why they thought Atlantis the continent sank into the sea the way Mycenae sank into the earth. Also, that mud should not have blocked all travel beyond the Mediterranean, most likely they could have still sailed up and down the coasts of Europe and Africa. Eventually the mud would sink, but they would not know it, because they would have given up going out into the ocean.

Plato said there was a "plain which is said to have been the fairest of all plains and very fertile". And near that plain was a small mountain, around which Poseidon formed the rings of land and sea. While describing the main palace and the main city, Plato mentions that there "were growing all manner of trees of wonderful height and beauty, owing to the excellence of the soil".

In my version of the story, the entire altiplano basin would've been under ocean water after being uplifted (the Humbolt Sea). That is why there is so much salt there now, and that is why we see so many marine fossils, and that is why Lake Titicaca has "seahorses", etc. Also, the plain would've been deformed, and new volcanic features would appear. That is why I am thinking the original plain could've been from Lake Titicaca and all the way south past Lake Poopo. This Peruvian-Bolivian altiplano basin was apparently the location of the "fertile plain" described by Plato. Indeed, it is in this area where the lost city of Atlantis has apparently been found! If the original plain was uplifted 12,000 feet in a catastrophe, then the plain would've been scrunched up a bit. So it is feasible to think the entire altiplano from Lake Titicaca south past Lake Poopo was the original level, rectanguar plain, and is now deformed.

They don't have any excellent soil, crops, or giant trees in the altiplano today. Nowadays we see that all the region from around Lake Titicaca down to Lake Poopo is covered in abandoned ancient irrigated cultivation systems. This matches Plato's description of canals and farms. Some of these fields are now permanently frozen and at over 14,000 feet elevation. There are numerous ancient terraced farms on the sides of steep hills. How can anyone water such a farm? The water would drain off immediately. Also, there is very little liquid water in those hills today, not enough to support all those canals and farms. And Lake Poopo is salty. Salt does not support plant life. There are large salt flats in the area. So it becomes easy to believe those farms were fairly level, and at a lower elevation, when they were being used.

In the Amazon there were vast terraced areas which must have been farms feeding many millions of people. And people keep finding and reporting mysterious lost cities down in South America. This would all be expected if the civilization of Atlantis covered the continent, as Plato described.

After all that calamity, the Sea Peoples began ransacking the Mediterranean area, looking for a new place to live. They destroyed almost everyone they came into contact with, except the Phoenicians. Some have said the Phoenicians were actually the Atlanteans all along. Perhaps the first wave of these Sea Peoples were people running away from the Atlantean conquering of the Mediterranean (the Dorian Invasion)? But just then Atlantis was destroyed, along with most of Europe. So the second wave of Sea People could very well have been the survivors of the catastrophe in Europe.

It would seem the scriptures and the old Egyptian records both match well with things that are currently observed in the earth. It seems easy to mesh the two stories, and neither seems to exclude the other. I find there is a good likelyhood both events occurred, and both events are actually the same event from different perspectives.

Was Plato's Atlantis a real story? I am sure there was an island nation called Atlantis which was judged. There is a piece of pottery existing verified as about 2800 to 2900 years old. It is a reciept for three shekels of silver from Tarshish to the Temple of Solomon. Tarshish was a Bronze-Age kingdom friendly to Solomon. The two stories complement each other, and neither rules out the other. Scripture seems to say there was a major judgment in Amos' time, perhaps the most severe judgment since Noah's Flood. It only makes sense that, since Plato's story is true, then Amos' Shaking is the most likely time for it to have happened.

The tale of Atlantis has all been verified and documented. The city of Atlantis has been found. You have probably heard of the ancient copper mines in Isle Royale which fueled the Bronze Age in Babylon and so forth. Also the gold and tin mines in South America from thousands of years ago. That was Atlantis. Those are Solomon's lost mines. Plato said the Egyptian said the civilization which was there before Greece. Nowadays the archaeologists call them: Mycenaeans. The Atlantians who invaded them are now called: Dorians. Then the comet came and killed nearly every living thing in South and North America, and Europe. This is all documented by experts. You can read all about it on the web. Judgment by comet, about 3000 years ago. Looks like the ocean washed completely over South America (Atlantis), and pretty far inland for North America and Asia (hundreds of miles).

Oh, and lest you think my idea of South America being Atlantis is far-fetched, please realize: it is not my idea! There is a website at atlantisbolivia.org by Jim Allen, who introduced the idea to me and the rest of the world many years ago. It appears he found the actual location of the city of Atlantis! Stop on by his website, and check out the photos and other evidence.


Habakkuk is a prophet thought to have lived about a hundred years after Yeshayah. Surely, if there was an impact, people would still be talking about it. And he does, seemingly. Chapter three recalls just such an event. Starting at verse 3:10, a comet impact causes mountains to rise and fall, and oceans to wash over continents. For verse eleven, the sun and moon stand still, as Amos said they would. The glittering spear must be a comet aimed at the earth. An impact will cause a burning hot wind to pass over the land, as the whirlwind in verse 14. And again the ocean washes over the land in verse 15.

Habakkuk 3:6 The eternal mountains were scattered, the everlasting hills did bow. 10 The mountains saw you, and were afraid. The tempest of waters passed by. The deep uttered its voice, and lifted up its hands on high. 11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation, at the light of your arrows as they went, at the shining of your glittering spear. 12 You marched through the land in indignation, you threshed the nations in anger. 14 You pierced the head of his warriors with his own staves. They came as a whirlwind to scatter me, their rejoicing was as to devour the poor secretly. 15 You tread the sea with your horses, the heap of mighty waters.

And then, something like 250 years later, Zecharyah confirmed that Amos' event came to pass in dramatic fashion:

Zecharyah 14:5 Yea, you will flee, like as you fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziyah king of Yahudah.

Mention is made of THE earthquake. Atlantis died in "an earthquake". Surely the people were familiar with earthquakes, some years after Noah's flood. The earth was still settling down. But there was one monstrous quake which everyone on earth felt. This is not some little earthquake, moment-magnitude 7 or 8 or 9 like we get nowadays - this was an earthquake felt around the world - and lasting all day. Talked about for many generations. Modern humans have no experience with anything like this. The series of four ~8.2mag earthquakes in Missouri in 1811/1812 (when the mighty Mississippi River flowed backwards, then changed course), the 1960 9.5mag and the 1868 9.0mag and the 2010 mag8.8 in Chile, the 2004 mag9.1 in Sumatra, and the 1964 9.2mag in Alaska were minor tremblors compared to Amos' earthquake! The scriptures rarely bother to mention such minor local earthquakes. Amos' Shaking lasted all day!

Remember that the land will rise and fall all around the earth. The oceans themselves would be washing around on the surface of the earth, and flooding continents (imagine tsunami's gone wild). You can expect anyone living somewhere near a sea would find themselves dead (as the Egyptian described). Zecharyah was comparing the judgment in the last days to the judgment in Amos' time. Obviously, the judgment in the last days will be pretty severe, which lends credence to the idea that Amos' Shaking was rather severe. No doubt, nearly every living thing on earth died that day. Yeshayah said everyone would have died if Yahwah had not deliberately kept them alive. Amos said only ten people out of a hundred would live - and that is on the other side of the earth from the impact.

So don't forget, there is a stronger judgment coming!

Judgment by fire!

Isaiah 24:1 Behold, Yahwah makes the earth empty and makes it waste, distorts its surface and scatters abroad its inhabitants. The land will be entirely emptied and utterly plundered, for Yahwah spoke this word. 6 Therefore the curse devours the earth, and those who dwell in it are desolate. Therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men [are] left. Isaiah 66:15 Behold, Yahwah will come with fire, and with His chariots, like a whirlwind, to render His anger with fury, and His rebuke with flames of fire. 16 For by fire and by His sword Yahwah will judge all flesh.

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